Recognition Of Long Time Members. Take One.
by Jason: MyFreeImplants on February 4th, 2010We just took a first stab at a “system to recognize long time members” based on an extensive review of many of the comments left. Upon your premium membership subscription renewal we are factoring in your length of membership and awarding you 5 bonus free message credits for every year that you’ve been a member. So for example if you’ve been here from the start (2005), you’ll now receive 25 free credits (5 credits X 5 years = 25 credits) with every automatic renewal, along with your regular 5 paid credits. That’s 30 message credits each month!
Some of the veterans have some of the best advice for new girls, and so hopefully you can now pass along your wise words of advice and encouragement to new ladies at no additional cost to you.
You will need to have at least a C-Cup or DD-Cup membership level at the time of the auto-renewal in order to take advantage of this offer but it’s okay if you had a lapse in membership (or need to take a temporary break) as it’s based purely on when you originally created your account. We feel this method struck a balance between most of the concerns voiced for privacy of the reward since only you know how many credits you have, and only you know what subscription level you have.
We’re going to leave the feedback forum item open with a “started” status for a while in case anyone else has other ideas to contribute, as we view this as only 1 piece of the puzzle in recognizing the veterans here.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Am I reading this rightly…? These are ‘free’ credits, as in they don’t contribute to the lady’s progress, but act like the five initial freebie credits a new member gets to use just for signing up?
Or do these actually somehow make a dollar appear and add to a lady’s total progress toward her goal?
Either way, this initially sounds very cool. Better to send a message that’s ‘free/$0′ for now, than have to ignore someone’s reaching out completely…
February 4th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
i think this is good step in right direction. wish this was done last week. when i renewed my membership last sat. oh well. guess have to wait and do it this month. in another 24 days or so.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Yes, they are free (no monetary value) credits. The same type you get upon sign-up or for donations in excess of $20.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:57 am
pooey on the no monetary value part LOL.. but great middle ground so as not to make anyone jealous because one has been here longer then the other.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:30 am
Up to 30 credits (at this point in time) a month… How do we, as a benefactor, tell whether or not a message sent is a free one or one that pays the model? Which is used first, the free message or the paid one? With up to 25 free credit (as of now), it would be a bit harder for the benefactor to keep track of the non-monetary messages.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Great question Walter. hmmmmmm inquiring minds wanna know …
February 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
It works the same way free credits have always worked; when sending a message it will first deduct from your balance of free credits, and when those are depleted it will deduct from your paid credits balance. In order to keep the interface simplified we don’t make you choose which type of credit you want to use. All you have to do is worry about the message, and the system handles the accounting for you.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
–That was my next question…
So when these drop into our accounts, we might need to rip through them quickly, so as to be able to send messages with a little value to them…
Still, this is a cool idea, even if there may be some kinks to work out on the user end…
February 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
@Jason: You wrote: “when sending a message it will first deduct from your balance of free credits, and when those are depleted it will deduct from your paid credits balance.” Can we clarify this with regard to Walter’s question?
Since I last logged on I have had 10 credits added, which I assume are these free credits. Right now, I want to reply to someone, and I ***WANT*** it to be a paid message – I want her to receive a credit.
But from what you wrote, it sounds like I first have to use up all the 10 free credits before I can send a paid message (that is, send a message that actually helps someone). Is this the way it is set up?
February 5th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Gil,
YEP that is the way it is set up. unfortunately for the girls one wants to help but makes it nice for a guy to send a first message to a girl and see if she is worthy of a paid message. *meaning will she return the message or will she just ignore it* if she returns the free message then she has at least shown that she got the message and took the time to reply. by then hopefully you will be through your free messages to send her a paid one.
so to recap…. yes it uses the free messages first and you have no choice other then use them up quickly and then get to your paid messages to send to whom you wish to help.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Seems like lots of confusion, and I will be honest, my head is spinning as well. And of course, I want to confuse it a little more: how about at the beginning of each month, when benes get returned message credits…how are we able to discern easily which of those credits is one that will push a model closer to her goal (paid) or is just a fluff message, which could be used for encouragement (free).
February 5th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I agree with Gil what if you want to send a paid message instead? or use it as a donation etc, and not waste the free credits for when you just want to send a message/tip to a model?
February 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Just to be clear. NOTHING has changed about how credits are used. The ONLY change is how many credits members with subscriptions receive.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
*confoozificated*
February 5th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Oh… I am confused.
Through a these years i did $20 donation i thought that the message credit i got for buying a $20 donation had a the monetary value of $1, because it shows up on my balance toward her i send it, both in my total and her total balance.
Or have i got this all wrong what is said in this thread? But no, what does this mean:
“The same type you get upon sign-up or for donations in excess of $20.”
Or what does this mean…?
Why are all my message credits always showing up as $1 in her total balance of her funds when they are free? If they have no monetary value then they should NOT show up as a monetary value in her funds or in my contribution to her.
Maybe i have got all this wrong and misunderstood it all, as i am far out in Swedish archipelago and breathing a very clear air.
I am confused… Maybe disappointed, as i maybe have misunderstood things about the free message for every $20 for several years now.
Give me an MFI dictionary, please.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
or do mean these earned message credits through promoting MFI on other web sites or emails , or similar??
Maybe that is what is meant.
Hmmm… then i have never got any message credits through that.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I am here to send REAL money through my messages, so please separate the free from the real ones. Or can i opt out for these about 25 no monetary value message credits i will get every month.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Sorry if i look ungrateful, but i do not want to confuse any lady and looking cheap by sending advices with no dollar.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
The free messages that are given for every 20 dollars donated are quite confusing as well. Apparently when you donate and don’t have any paid messages, they are worth zero, but if you buy credits or the membership is renewed, all the messages get a value. I agree with CCR, maybe some people is here to just meet ladies, but some are here to actually help them reach their goal, so either the messages should have a monetary value and be equal to the bought credits, or they should be separated from the ones that actually help the ladies reach their goal, that way you can choose to answer a cut and paste message (or one that may look like one) with a free message or contact someone who you do not know and not risk your money until you know them better, and use your paid messages with the people you know well.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Crap — When Death shows up to ask what’s going on, that’s real.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
SHHHH!!! They may actually fix the ‘bug’ and I would rather they didn’t. Actually I would be pretty upset if they did.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
i also would like to have the option of knowing if im sending a paid message or a free message! some girls i send the message as a small donation u know what im saying? and yes to a new girl i would want to send a free message or to those im not as close to.
February 5th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
CCR-
when a girl here gets a free message..it does not show up in her totals…it shows the message time and then behind it says “free message” never shows up in any totals
i think it is a good idea for guys to be able to separate these messages ..like choose to send a free or paid…btu over all i think these extra messages are a good thing:) even though they are free…they will at least help start friendships..
February 5th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Well, if we get to choose what kind of messages we want to send, people won’t be able to hide behind the excuse that they have no control over what kind of messages they’re sending.
How about showing a benefactor (and only to himself) how many of each messages he’s got, and allowing him to convert them, say, five or then free messages for one paid? Or more, if needed, as I realize this is cutting into MFI’s cut, but I’m sure a fair figure could be found, and this would be voluntary anyways.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I’m tired… This should have read “five or ten free messages”
February 6th, 2010 at 10:57 am
I *think* only we see how many message credits we have — it doesn’t show up to the ladies, just like how the progress breakdown they see on their own profiles doesn’t show up for us when we look at them (they can see who’s sent them what, while we just see a dollar amount for total-progress-so-far).
*readies himself for Recognition, Take One-Point-Five*
February 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
This is the first step for this with recognition of long time benefactors (a suggestion i never voted for and will not vote for). however as it is the first step, then please make it so we see w that we have Free zero monetary value message credits in our message credits. And if they are the first be sent, then just a change of the color of the number will do for to know if there are free/$0 message credits and then when they are used up the text color changes back its normal color.
February 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Yes J Coverman, only us can see how many message credits we have. What I meant by my precision was that I’d like to see the breakdown, too, even if I can’t choose which will be used. But I don’t want ladies to have access to that info, either, just as they can’t access it now.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
OK, why not make it so we can choose what kind of message credit we want to send to a lady. If there are both kinds the system asks us or we have to check a box for either free/$0 or paid/$, if there is only one kind in our message credits the system will not ask us.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
the thing is- i dont seem to notice sending messages and the girl not getting a dollar, and believe me, I have looked for it a great deal
I also believe that if we knew what kind of message the next one in the list was, then I for one would use the free ones to be able to chat to the girls that dont seem to be able chat to work
in fact i think that maybe a miraculous cure to the misfunctionning chatboxes!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I have just come to realize that I do NOT like tihs feature at all. I got a few messages in my email saying I had messages here and was VERY excited. Then I log in and see that they are ALL free messages. this doesnt help me at all towards my goals. ohh and all those messages were from my friends that I have had a while. meaning as long as they can write me for free then they will but if they had to shell out a dollar to me then they have better things to do. hmmmmmmm. I HATE THIS FEATURE. I guess you find out who your friends are afterall huh?
February 6th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Crazy.
Whether my message earns you a buck or not, it demonstrates at least some level of interest in the person I’ve sent it to. I’m not sending free messages deliberately, but I think anyone who chose not to respond to a message from a longtime benefactor because it was free is shooting themselves in the foot.
I think granting the choice will have its own negative impact since it will mean I didn’t spend that buck on purpose. In that case, I think repeated offenses might make me annoyed.
On the other hand, I wonder how many people get free messages vs. how many have free chats each day.
February 6th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
free/paid breakdown has been added.
@Judy: really? If I were you I’d embrace the fact that someone reached out to you in the first place and put in the effort. Benefactors have tons of women that would love to get attention from them. You should feel lucky.
February 6th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
how do you follow that?? ha!
February 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
i guess many of your “friends” will see this and not be sending any after all!
February 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Ok thank you Jason.
Will there be a possibility to choose what kind of message we want to send and when we want to use the free ones?
Not in the order MFI decides them being used. When/If i have free/$0 messages i might want to send paid to those i currently talk to and not free/$0 messages.
February 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I am not saying that I did not respond to said messages because I ALWAYS respond to every message I get with excitement and joy to have gotten a message at all. It just got me frustrated to see in my email I had messages and then log in to see that it didnt help me towards my goal at all.
and why is everyone attacking me. a few benes have said they are here to send their donations in the form of paid messages and so forth. and being the ONLY female that has the guts to respond to this update. *other then becky that has just commented on someones post rather then the update in general an also said she thinks the benes should be able to seperate paid from free* .. hmmmmm I bet there are more ladies here that feel the same as me but wont say anything because they are afraid.
February 6th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
well of course getting free messages isnt as awesome as a paid one..i knwo the guys even knwo that!!
but to sound so ungrateful and “Frustrated” by it is the only reason i commented…yes i didnt like free messages! but i didnt hate the attention nor the interest the guy was showing!
im not attacking you…just saying some thoughts are better left unsaid….
February 7th, 2010 at 12:01 am
There are no plans at this point to provide the option to choose which type of credit you want to send.
February 7th, 2010 at 2:45 am
Thats too bad, Jason
February 7th, 2010 at 5:32 am
This morning my time, i have had 2 times where i would like to use free/$0 messages to 2 different ladies that i actually talk with paid/$1 messages. One instance was where i was about to explain some technical stuff on here. The other time was where i was forgetting to answer a question a lady asked me and did send an extra paid message. I know many times where i would use the free messages but it would never be in the order MFI have decided them to be sent.
February 7th, 2010 at 6:28 am
but you use the free ones first!!! so if you had any- they would be the ones you would have sent!!!
February 7th, 2010 at 8:11 am
yes that is the problem
I maybe do not want to use them up first! Because with some i might want to spend and not send free/$0 messages. One of my basics when it comes to messaging through out the over 4 years i have been here is that messaging gives money for boobs. Ok i wont get many free/$0 messages every month, about 20 to 25, and me being a more messaging guy than chatting will use them up fast. Most likely on a more or less “dead”/abandoned profile, so that i can spend where i want to spend.
Having them being sent/used first is more lack of freedom and limitation to me than help.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Another example:
yesterday i sent more than 25 messages so if i had 25 free/$0 messages they would all been used up when i thought i needed them this morning.
February 7th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Well, thanks Jason. To be able to know for sure what kind of message we’re going to send (thanks to the break down you added) is a big help.
I guess we can stock on 2$ donations now, and use them, if we know that the message we’re about to send is going to be a free one.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:38 am
If the free messages are to encourage us to message new girls and offer advice, well thats a fine intention. However the way they’re set up means we now have to burn them all as soon as they arrive so that we can get into the paid messages for adding to the goals of existing friends. Doesn’t that run counter to the intent? We can’t “save” them up to use for free advice or encouragment when they’re actually needed. Also we can’t avoid using a “free” message when we really want to respond to a friend’s blog, or send a birthday greeting.
It is a decent idea, but i think needs a little more work. Having been away for a couple weeks, i didn’t even know this had happened and assumed the extras were “returns”. That means i’ve sent some “free” messages to friends i actually wanted to send a paid message. Annoying!!! Now i’m going to have to apologise!!!
February 12th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
There is a new item in the “feedback” that addresses this problem. Hope it gets addresses soon. With all due respect (and I know this was intended to be a benefit), I feel that something got broke that didn’t need fixing.
February 14th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Dammit! You all got to talking about it and darn it, they fixed it. I no longer get a free to me paid message when making a $20 donation. I was until recently and confirmed this fact before the change was made.
This “fix” and the fact I have no choice but to use the free credits first does not sit well with me.
Prior to today I have made it a point to make donations in multiples of $20 so I could get the additional paid message credits for free. I admit I’m a cheap SOB. I loved getting that additional dollar’s worth of value out of my donations because it went directly to support my friends. Now I no longer have that luxury. So to that end, MFI may actually receive less money from me because I am less likely to round the donation up to the next $20 increment now.
Yes, I realize that extra dollar represents 5 percent where MFI would be getting $14 instead of $19 for every $100 donation but I do hope they reevaluate fixing that “bug” and come to some happy medium where the value of a larger donation would show up in the funds of the women.
Bottom line, I would rather receive the free to me paid credits for donations than a bunch of free message credits that I have no control whether or not to use them.
February 15th, 2010 at 5:48 am
@Walter:
Thank you , Walter, fro brining it up publicly. I have been in discussion with the MFI management about this free paid message for every $20 donation. And got the answer” they have always been free (ie no monetary value). It went so far that begun to doubt what i have experienced for years about this what was added on Thanksgiving in 2006.
I do as you realize that it is margin loss for MFI. But i do not believe it was a bug.
I have also been in discussion with the MFI management about having control over free messages given us for being long time members. And this is the answer i get:
“I understand the situation you describe, and I will take it into consideration. I still strongly believe that it should be as easy as possible to send messages (especially for new members) and what you are asking for does add some additional complexity. Thanks as always for taking the time to express your thoughts and concerns.”
I thought the free messages for being long time members was given to more advanced members here and not newbies?
February 15th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I wish I had saved screen shots but I intentionally took notes the last time I donated prior to the change.
This is what I did on February 5th, 2010:
1) I copy and pasted both the woman’s totals and my total contributions before making the donation.
earnings to date: $7,545.33 (before donation)
your contributions: $639.60 (before donation)
2) I made the donation and copied and pasted the woman’s totals and my total contributions.
earnings to date: $7,561.53 (after $20 donation)*
your contributions: $655.80 (after $20 donation)*
*note the totals changed by the expected $16.20 after MFI’s 19 percent cut of $3.80.
3) I immediately sent the “I sent you a $20.00 donation!” and copied and pasted the totals once again.
earnings to date: $7,562.53 – after donation message*
your contributions: $656.80 – after donation message*
*note the totals indicated the “free to me” message was in fact a paid message because the totals rose $1 for both of us.
I am fairly comfortable with stating that receiving the perk of the free to me paid message credit has been going on since I joined in August 2007.
So, I will hope there will not be any rate increases here anytime soon because MFI has in fact just received one.
I hope it is understood how much this topic means to me and how much I valued that little extra incentive to spend a bit more. I highly guard my privacy about what I do here. I could have adjusted my totals but I did not want my word to be questioned. If the management of MFI wants to validate my findings, I still have my order confirmation number.
Hope this helps.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:20 am
@CCR – “I thought the free messages for being long time members was given to more advanced members here and not newbies?”
I believe they are referring to using those messages for new models, not giving free messages to new benefactors.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:00 am
I wish too i had saved some screen shots of this, however i use a spared sheet in Excel and i have done it in same manner as you have done. And seen also on here profile my contributions and her total go up with $1 after sending that extra free message valued $1.
I did always aim to make my donations in increments of $20. No i see no need to look for that. If i want to donate just $10 why pre buy another $10 to just get a free non monetary message? i buy it directly on her page and if i later want to donate another 410 to same lady i just do it later, which will lead to more transactions for MFI , equal more costs for MFI.
As i understand in my discussion with the managment, they see it as too complicated to have new benefactors need to understand or have to choose what mkind of message they will use if they have both types: free and paid.
The free messages i have got so far, have not used on new ladies, as i at that time was not connected with any i thought of or something like that. So i used them on other ladies who are advanced members on MFI. If they want me to really use the free message on new ladies then they need to give us more control over them. As it is now i will probably not use them towards new ladies so often, i see more areas to use them and where they come more in use than only to new ladies.
The only way to not get free messages is to have B cup membership. That is i am not interested in the games and audio/video chats. I rarely chat at all, so for me it will probably land to that direction if i see these free messages cause more problem for me and my way of using MFI. The management have even suggested a feature to be able to “dump” free messages and i rather decline to that and have the lower membership, that suits me and my way better.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Corrections
410 = $10
That is i am not interested = That is if i am not interested
February 15th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Yeah, that simple little $1 had affected the way I was purchasing donations. But if it was a ‘loss’ for the business that was somehow unknown, perhaps there will be an adjustment of things — perhaps a slightly smaller amount could get taken out as transaction fees? Maybe. I’m sure it will take time to see what the pattern is…
“No donations go unused here.”
February 17th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
You know
6×15=90+10=100 and no free messages