We’ve been closely monitoring the feedback forums and gathering tons of useful data, so thanks again for continuing to speak up! Today we’re rolling out a variety of changes to the website that cover several different areas that many of you have spoken up about.
The first item on the list is the ability for benefactors to access a list of all the girls they have contributed to. This is now accessible through The Girls section, under My Investments and includes all contributions (both donations and messages). From this list you can then obviously access each girls profile to see how much you have contributed to each of them on their profile page. So this feature takes care of the #1 requested item with 138 votes.
Similarly for the ladies, there’s a new list to show you on one page everyone that has contributed to you. Accessible from The Guys section under My Benefactors. This list is slightly different from the My Friends list in that not everyone on My Friends list has necessarily contributed. Be sure to use both of these lists as tools at your disposal for maximum benefit!
In addition to these lists is a link to filter the lists to only show you people that you can leave feedback for. This was the 59th ranked feature request with only 5 votes which goes to show you we aren’t JUST looking for the most popular items. We’re looking at them all in a much broader context. So don’t be shy when it comes to suggesting a new idea! 
Which brings us to what will most likely be the most controversial update. Feedback. At #45 with 7 votes was the request to Have ability to add feedback when making a donation of $20 or more. This is now in place, but with a lower threshold of $7.00 minimum. This works both ways, ladies you need to have received at least $7 to leave feedback from someone and vice versa. We’ll see how this one goes for a little while and listen to your feedback for any further updates.
Also feedback related, is we are changing the display and the scoring mechanism. The display of feedback now shows feedback from inactive accounts at the bottom of the list, and in a gray color to separate out active feedback from older feedback. Just like the website is organic and changes over time, so do people. So this will sort of give you a visual cue as to a persons current feedback situation to gauge if they have gotten better or worse over time. Hopefully better!
Which brings us to the feedback scoring system. We are now displaying your feedback score on your profile to make you more aware of your own score, and in addition we are experimenting with a new formula for calculating the score by using a weighted value based on the person who left you feedback. We are also only calculating feedback from active members. These two new factors may have a dramatic effect on some peoples scores. For example, maybe you had a run-in with some Internet troll that just wanted to annoy some people or harass someone for a few laughs. Most likely that person would be a newbie, and therefore have a feedback score of zero. If they left you negative feedback it wouldn’t affect your overall score, because they obviously don’t have any “street cred” and their zero score is not as valuable as say someone with a score of 90 that leaves you negative feedback. Similarly as outlined above, old ratings from people that are no longer active are not factored into your overall score.
It’s important to note that this new scoring system will take some time for the scores to adjust as people add/update feedback since scores are now much more interconnected and dependent on everyone elses score. In a Eutopian world, this will encourage everyone to be kind to everyone else and give us fewer headaches! 
Remember if your friends get a negative score it can also impact your score! We’ll see how this one pans out over the next couple of weeks/months and make any adjustments as necessary. It’s not set in stone, so go with it for a little while and as always please leave your feedback in the feedback forums for future updates!
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Leave A CommentWell to me it is a big deal,and obviously a few other HOFers think so too. You are right, I am going to cause an uproar. It seems the only way things get done here. First of all as a HOFer,you are here to help EVERYBODY,so if I can’t leave feedback for other girls to see….then where is the help? To say that HOFers are only here to get things off their wishlist,or because they are bored,implies that you must be bored and don’t to help,or that you just want to get things off your wishlist,and to say that you only stick with your friends,says that you are only using your friends to get things off your wishlist(haven’t they given you enough already?)
and this thing about girls not returning a message,what is that all about? When I was earning,if I didn’t return a message,(I NEVER GOT ANOTHER) If someone does not return a message,must mean that they are not interested in you,and really doesn’t deserve a second message. I think what this all boils down too,is that some of you guys just want us girls to jump through hoops for a dollar. I have messaged hundreds of guys without getting a reply some of them got a lot of messages,how many messages does a girl have to send one guy before she gets a “I’m sorry,I’m not interested” or a thank you for the messages? This is hard enough without getting completely ignored all the time,So what you are saying is it’s alright to hurt the girls feelings and not even acknowledge her effort when she sends multiple messages to you,but she is supposed to jump through hoops because you sent her one message. It’s in a girls best interest to say thank you for that first message SO AGAIN,IF A GIRL DOESN’T RETURN YOUR FIRST MESSAGE THEN SHE DOESN’T DESERVE A SECOND,PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Suggestions regarding feedback changes. I think the discussion shows that a single criterion isn’t going to work in all cases. This week we changed from one to another, and neither is perfect. I suggest a hybrid.
1. Return the ability to leave feedback after 3 messages from each party.
Why? Among other things, to HONOR THE HOF MEMBERS, to let them receive and give new feedback. If for no other reason, it’s the right thing to do for women in the HOF!
And, strictly from a business standpoint, I suspect there are a lot of us who stay with the site over time because of our friends in the HOF, including people we met after they got there. (And because they stay, we stay. Then we meet new people, and spend money, so it’s good for MFI business.)
2. Keep the new feature of feedback with minimum donation (e.g., $7) … but add the proviso that the recipient must have sent the benefactor 3 messages.
Why? Make sure that BOTH benefactor and recipient have control over whether a sufficient relationship has been established so that feedback can be sent. I have read that some benefactors like to chat rather than send messages; I think this was part of the motivation for the change, since they had donated but had not sent 3 messages. Fine, but in this case, without a “minimum time in chat” criterion, I think the potential abuses that Drone and other have discussed could occur. A simple solution is that there be a minimum donation AND 3 messages from the recipient. This should be easy since a recipient doesn’t pay to send messages; if she wants to leave feedback for a “chat only” donator (and receive feedback in return) all she needs to do is send 3 messages.
3. Return to original way of calculating a feedback score. The calculation should not include the score of the person who leaves the feedback.
Why? First I think the individual rating the individual is most important. If we let the change stand, anyone with even a single negative is poison. Think about it: just by leaving feedback, he or she would ruin a 100% percent feedback rating.
Worse, new people have a 0% rating until someone leaves them feedback. So if a new person wants to “move first” to leave feedback, she or he lowers the recipient’s feedback, even by saying something positive. This seems perverse.
4. Return the order of feedback to chronological.
Why? Sorting by active versus not active does nothing for me. Also … this is purely selfish on my part … for one of my special friends, I was HER FIRST (feedback). I’d like to hold on to that special place, but now I have been pushed to the middle, and someone who left the site looks like he was her first. *insert jealous and mopey face*
ONE MORE COMPLAINT,
I AM MISSING FEEDBACK ? MAY SOUND LAME TO SOME PEOPLE HERE BUT..IT WAS MY FEEDBACK FROM A VERY NICE MAN WHO HELPED ME ON MY VERY FIRST DAY HERE AND WAS VERY GENEROUS, AND NOW ITS GONE? (AND YES WE STILL TALK TO THIS DAY)
@ Lisa : I’ve never asked ANYONE for any thing. Not even when I was reaching my goal. So I certainly aint asking anyone for any items off my wishlist. Sticking with my friends means sticking by the people that have invested in my breasts and showed me support and continue to do so.
Again with putting words in peoples mouth. and by a few Hoffers, you mean 2 or 3 dont like this new system? There is a place where you can personally send The J’s your feedback. Thats either what all the other Hoffers are doing or they just *dont care*.
Funny thing this with “My Investments”: I have 3 ladies from the early days on that list or filter or whatever it should be called, barely a list. However it says this for my investments to them: $0.00. SO why are they there? Yes, because i once long time ago contributed to them far more than $0.00. My ability to leave or change my feedback has been revoked even though i once contributed far more than $7.00 to them.
Why isn’t my original contributions showing to these 3 early HoFers? They are showing when i visit their profile, but why not in My Investments. A bug maybe or just bad implemented.
and I doubt your meeting all these “new guys” that havent donated to you in the past anyways because they would have to send you 1$ message credit that would deduct from the other girls still earning on the site.
As of now Im $ 15 over my goal. That means 15 new guys have contacted me and yes I have talked to them.
I can do this all day,bottom line,I dont like the new rule,things were taken away from for no other reason then that I am a hofer,and I am going to fight to get it back,at this point in time I really dont care who likes it and who dont,all I know is I dont,and to imply that I am a liar pisses me off even more,and before you make anymore implications,have one of your good friends check out what feedback I have now, and see just how many guys say they just met me,before you run mouth,If you dont want to fight for some thing that was taken from you DONT,I really dont care,and no matter what you say or how much you flap your gums,I will still be fighting for what I feel is right,weather you like it or not,as far as I am concerned this immature conversation is over,so say anything you like,I really dont care,you will just be arguing with your self………….
So, it took me some time to respond to digest and see how the changes pan out.
The first version of the new “My Investments” was useless, but as Jason noted, that is because a file was not pushed. Sure, I would love to see a sortable table with a column each for messages, donations, and total, but I don’t know how often I would use the sorting function. I like the current implementation.
New feedback option, I don’t like it at all. You lose the one-on-one aspect we had before, and this further caters to the picture sellers, where the benes come in, buy pics and vids, and build no relationship. An either/or aspect would be nice, but the $7 threshold seems too small, and devalues feedback PLUS allows no ways for a model or bene to reward someone they met after HOF (of which I have a few on my list). Wish list changed that landscape as well.
The feedback score system confuses me, and I personally don’t see the value to it. Only change I ever wanted to see on that page was a link to who left the feedback, visible only to the person who received it (on both bene and model side).
There has been alot of good suggestions here and I would say that I do think the feedback should be changed back to 3 messages from each person. Now the reason for that is that if a guy starts to talk to a HOFer which I believe now is free they can start a friendship and leave feedback for eachother. I have many ladies in HOF and I still love to chat with them and message them, they are a major part of this site and need to be looked after more.
As for the rest of the feedback I think it the score is a good idea, whether it will work or not is another matter but it needs to be tested and given time. Though the way feedback is sorted with the active ladies at the top and inactive at the bottom should be put back to the way it was, it is just to jumbled now and takes to much work to look at how the guys or ladies feedback has pregressed or decreased. It should be put back to date order so that we can see how there feedback has changed or not from their first up to their last, the colouring is ok it shows those that are no longer active on the site and those that are, its useful.
As for the My Investments list well in truth its not that much different from the Free Messages list except that those that you have donated that are not yet in HOF are not on that list yet. I do like that idea of what a few have said about it being a list that you can sort to see who you last donated to and be able to see each donation you have made and who to.
why assume there”s no leftover $ in anyones boob account,I have some…and yes Ive made plenty of new friends,now maybe we have only gotten as far as sending one or two messages so far but who”s to say there were not going to be anymore ??? theres different ways of meeting new friends, chat? leaving a comment on a blog is a good way to meet friends, some even sent a pic of flowers to say congradulations! so… yes Im not happy with the new 7.00 rule.
the end.
@ LIANA…Thank you so much sweetie,very well said…..
I put my helmet and boxing gloves on before entering here today! I’m glad I did! Everyone seems to vary with their opinions on the changes! And I know for some the feedback thing isn’t so important! But to a lot of the bene’s it is! They need the reassurance that they are doing all they can to make us happy just as much as we need theirs! Feedback is just another way to validate that for them! This place is a social network like many other places…I am glad I’ve met many of those that I have after the HOF and still can appreciate the ones I met before the HOF. Many of them wanted to jump in on my train ride but when I went from 1/2 way to go to the HOF in less than 2 wks..Well some didn’t make it to the train stop in time! Either way if I’ve met you since the HOF and I’ve not left you feedback..I apologize to you for that!
This site is about girls raising money for boob jobs. take that out of the equation, and there is no reason for any of us to be here. period. benefactors and models use feedback (or lamentably dont sometimes) in order to decide who is either i) worth the donation, and ii) worth getting donations from. If the feedback is there to tell us who is a nice person or other such stuff, then it is meaningless in the context of this site. I know it sounds harsh, but those are the bare facts.
It took me some thinking to arrive at that point, but its true in the end of the day. Why are we here? To fund breast augmentation. How should we decide who should fund it and who should have it? by looking at feedback amongst other things. What should be the context of that feedback? Well naturally the funding of implants.
Or are some people suggesting that benefactors and models should be judging each other on the basis of wishlist items? Perhaps they should, in which case, yes site management have got it wrong, but I don’t think so, wishlist items are a little addition to the site to make a hall of fame girls time there a little nicer and the purchasing of them is not something to judge a benefactors willingness to pay for breast augmentation.
There is an old saying “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”
I don’t think Jason is stupid, but I do think he may have overlooked the impact of the $7.00 rule on on the hoffers.
@dietcoke – It is up to everyone to determine their own place on MFI. It seems you have chosen the strictly business model approach, which is perfectly fine. Please realize that not everyone views MFI as a quid pro quo arrangement as you do. To some, making friends is an important component of MFI. I know it is for me.
Exchanging donations for content has always been a secondary concern for me. I believe the last time I did send a specific donation, it was to a woman that a HoF friend had a PIF arrangement with. Even then, it was more a show of appreciation of my HoF friend than for the content itself. Being able to leave any of my friends feedback, including the ones I met after they reached the HoF, is a way to show my appreciation for them.
If the criteria of $7 in total contributions isn’t going away, please add the exchange of three messages, paid or not, back into criteria and make it an either/or proposition. I think that will satisfy both the ones who make donations, the ones who send messages and all those in between.
Well, with one caveat. If a woman rejects a donation, any feedback solely associated with that donation gets removed as well. That will restore some of the control a woman had with her journey here.
The NEW Feedback calculation.
I get new positive feedback, from a lady who has no negative feedback and my feedback score sinks, get lower. That is just crap! But i do not understand it? I do not understand why? And i see no reason for it.
sorry i didnt mean to imply donations in exchange for content, thats missing the point. What I mean is, if feedback isn’t about to show who’s a good model to sponsor IN HER QUEST FOR IMPLANTS or good benefactor, then what is it there for?
Sorry, that may have been a little to frank for you.
But coming from a girl who “feels punished for making HOF” and implying that I only stick w. my “old friends” to get more stuff from them, thats how I feel.
Much Love * Happy Holidays everyone!
GOOD NEWS, (maybe)I received an E-mail from Jason and all he said was that they are working on a way for HOFers to leave feedback…..
I think the positive gets you a negative has been fixed. If you could ask the woman involved to update her feedback, I think you’ll be okay.
The issue was with the “reputation” piece that was included. The intent was that a negative from a person with lots of negatives or no feedback shouldn’t carry much weight. The tricky part was that the “sender’s feedback rating” was in both the positive and negative side. So if someone who left you a positive was at 90% on feedback, it only gave you .9 and you wound up looking worse for it.
I think that has been fixed.
Also the My Investment link has some totals that are way off. Listing as less than they should be by a lot.
Today’s pop quiz. Can anyone find a woman who has grey feedback? I went back to some of the first hoffers and none of them had any grey feedback. They had feedback from 2007, but it was all still “active”. I also checked the top 5 most persistent women, none of them had any grey feedback either.
Change is inevitable. So, apparently, are half-truths about change.
If part of the change was to protect women, can anyone find one who has been protected?
It would appear this has been fixed now as some of the very same women I looked at yesterday now have grey feedback.