Starting on January 1, we will be updating the policy regarding the time Hall of Fame women have to use funds, from 2 years to 15 months (to account for a 9-month pregnancy + 6-months for breast feeding). We have listened to arguments from both sides and we feel this is a fair compromise. This time period also seems to be the medical consensus.
Those users at risk of passing this new threshold have received an email suggesting they take action by January 1st. Finally, please keep in mind that we will have the ability to grant extensions, determined on a case by case basis.
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Leave A CommentLet’s all settle down. I’m just one guy and I don’t have any monopoly on good ideas. there are plenty of people with good ideas here, I just tend to post mine in blogs while others share theirs quietly.
Besides, I don’t think I’m leaving right now.
About this girl (nonexistant obviously) that could go to the J’s 13-14 months after she reaches HOF and says shes pregnant.
Well… sh*t happens. To be quite frank, thats the only way I could put it. My son wasnt planned. I never expected to get pregnant but it happens.
and I dont think anyone could take the place of Drone.
and I think I could possibly be one of the ladies to get there boobies the quickest after money is in docs hands lmao. im getting them in 2 week! before i could blink its happening!! YAYYYy!!!
*CROSSES FINGERS*
Pray I don’t get pregnant!!!
Ok s*** happens but like I said what about the past 11 to12 and a half months,I can get a boob job, decide I want to go bigger and come back for a second time and get another boob job in 15 months…..
The point I am trying to make or what I am asking is when does a extension come into play
DRONE IS STAYING!!!! WHOOO!!!
There’s a couple of different issues being discussed here.
The issue of exceptions is something that we will obviously have to handle on a case by case basis. Based on past history these are far and few between. I think the general idea here is to be able to provide a way for management to use their best judgment for when shit does happen. Also based on past experience, in these rare cases, the ladies are also going to keep their benefactors abreast of any issues that may be holding up a surgery. And we’ll be asking any future ladies to do so moving forward. I think the main point to drive home is that people should communicate with each other so that no one is left in the dark. Some people may care more about this than others, but for those that do care, it’s clearly important to them.
@CCR, to address your point, I just added a small change so that it’s more clear when viewing a ladies profile if the account was suspended by management or if it was just auto-suspended due to inactivity. You’ll only see this change on HOF profiles however since non-HOF profiles that are auto-suspended will no longer be available on the site in the first place.
@Jim, there are a set of checks and balances in place to try and ensure that funds are used for a surgery, and only for a surgery. There’s only been one case in the past where a girl backed out of her surgery all together after it was already paid for, in which case the doctor sent the funds back to us, and her account was removed and donations returned. Regarding the recent girl you mentioned (assuming its the same girl) her doctor is holding the funds for now, otherwise we lose the deposit and she’ll have to raise those funds again. We’d rather not make her (or her donors) go through that, so we’re just keeping track internally that the doctor was paid already.
Also, with Jeanette’s additional help around “the office” she’s going to be doing a better job of following up with girls about her before/after photos, which BTW is also something the new site design will take into account — a better before/after gallery with more frequent updates. You do bring up a good point though in that enforcing the contract is actually a really hard thing to do. We can nag and pester them a lot, but it’s hard to “extract” photos from someone halfway across the world, or the country, or even the state. We are looking into some other options of ways to possibly enforce this. An obvious solution would be to require some sort of financial deposit on the girls part that she would only get back after she upheld her end of the deal. But that may be cost prohibitive to some, and if it’s not enough of a deposit, it’s also not enough of an incentive to deliver. And it makes even less sense for one of her donors to cover the deposit, because now we’re right back at square one. With that being said, we are researching some alternatives.
I had suggested a while back that MFI should consider rolling in accessorial charges to take into account things like notary fees in the UK, which are very expensive compared to US fees. Here in the US, you can often get things notarized for less than $5. In the UK, it appears that service and approach or even exceed $100.
Though I know it will pain some more than others, maybe the easiest solution is to offer a $50 completion bonus when a woman sends in her before and after photos. I know it will rankle some to give a woman “free” implants and pay her $50, but I do think the completion is important to the site and to the community.
@Jason: Thanks for the clarification. My concern on the fraudulent issue is there are quite a number of models that had their surgeries paid for, who have no after photos posted to their account. And this is more than six months after their surgeons were paid.
Of course you can nag/pester, or “offer” to enforce the substantial breach clause of the Global Agreement with a well-worded letter from a lawyer. It is amazing how the threat of a $10,000 breach of contract penalty will get people off their asses.
Do the doctor’s offices take any sort of after photos? Could something be worked out there?
And Jason is right: the whole thing comes down to benefactors wanting to be kept abreast.
Also, every mention of the ‘new site design’ makes me more curious about it…
abreast… what a pun on words you guys!
I think that as long as people are being informed as to why funds aren’t being used (pregnancy, breastfeeding, illness, family illness, ect) and it’s documented on here (since there should be since this is the internet) than it shouldn’t be an issue. If you don’t inform your benes, then yes, the funds should be returned after X ammt of time.
I know that with the surgeon I chose, as long as the surgery is paid for in full, then your cost doesn’t go up. It “locks in” your price. Maybe you need to do business with more surgeons like that so that funds go to the doctor, and are returned only if the girl doesn’t have surgery after X amt of time. Make sense?
I don’t think there are as many bene’s interested in after phots as you might think,all in all I had about 96 different guys either donate and message or just message me,I might have missed a guy or two,but I sent my after pics to almost all of them,and had maybe 5 guys show interest in them(at least to me anyway)….
@Lisa: I am about as interested in after pics as I am before pics, which is not very. But, it is a fulfillment of a contract with MFI, which helps MFI properly market success stories.
@JIm I know and completely agree with the reasons why the J’s want the before and after pics,they got theirs before anyone else did,but it was a big shock to me to find out the the guys that helped me get my new boobs,had very little interest in seeing or knowing what they helped me get,as I am sure ,even though you are not interested in pics,you are still interested in knowing that the girls you supported put your donations to good use,yes some of my better friends (I hate using the term bene)did get topless pics (it’s no big secret I what I am comfortable doing and what I am not comfortable doing)most did not.
I guess what I am trying to say is that other than providing the J’s with before and after pics and standing up to my end of the contract (witch I have been doing 100%)after pics should be no big issue,heck except for a few of my close friends most guys lost interest in me the second I hit the HOF,but I must say I made a few close new friends after making the HOF,one of them has been here for a little over 4 years(and what a really nice guy he turned out to be)
Changing the policy so the models have to use their funds in a shorter period of time is a very good idea.
But I do not understand why you give them 15 months in HOF? Pregnancy is not the norm here.
So I suggest that the time frame has to be shorter:
- 3 or 6 months in HOF to send in papers.
- 6 months after sending the papers to get surgery
This would mean that the models have 9 or 12 months to use their funds.
In case of pregnancy or severy health problems (which have to be confirmed by a doctor) the period can be extended. And of course there might be other special cases to extend the time frame.
Having models to be active till they send in the papers is also a good idea, same rules for HOFers and non-HOFers.
Okay, so my question is,
I was already in HOF as of September 15th, 2009….I recently maybe 2 weeks ago choose to pull out but I am 120 dollars short of being back in. I AM CURRENTLY PREGNANT.
So, does my 15 months start from the time I go back in, or from the time I was in the first time.
Also, I want to breastfeed my baby when he/she is born somewhere around JULY 2, 2010 and being this 15 month rule I feel I am rushed to breast feed, let my breasts dry up, squeeze in a new consultation, and then get a 2 week pre op apt, and then the actual surgery.
AND, now what if there is no apt available in this time frame. I feel I am being forced to not be able to breastfeed if I want boobs. What now do I do? I worked hard to raise my goal and all who know me know this is a dream come true to me and I WILL get boobs as soon as possible, but the time frame isn’t long enough I feel.
i dont get what this is saying…can someone dumb it down for me…muchas gracias