Just rolled out a performance tweak to profile pages. We noticed (and some of you did too) that when you logged in, or clicked to your “My Profile” page that it would load slowly, or even time our during heavy use. That should be fixed now and it’s MUCH snappier!
Also, as per request, donors now have the option to transfer donations from inactive ladies accounts, into your boob bank for safe keeping. Previously, if a ladies account went inactive (meaning no activity in the past 30 days) her profile would automatically suspend into a state of limbo. Donations you sent her would then be transferable to anyone else of your choice. However… if she later logged back into her account (for up to 6-months) then the donation would no longer be transferable as it was now locked in her account again. So… with this new adjustment you can transfer donations from those limbo accounts that are not active (yet not yet purged) into your boob bank. This feature is available on the Bulk Transfer page (link is available on your Boob Bank page).
Ladies, all you have to do is keep your account active and you shouldn’t have to worry about this change.
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Leave A CommentJason, on the note of inactivity, is the business looking at shortening the time it takes to get message credits back, especially for accounts that the model deletes, or more so, an account that MFI deletes.
Not at this time.
The only Boob Bank credit I’d like to see implemented is one for girls I donated to over a year ago, who haven’t gotten their implants yet. I’ve donated some serious money a girl who, for some reason, went AWOL and I’ve never heard from again. It’s been two years since she made the HOF. She hasn’t logged into the site in almost a year, yet my money still sits there…waiting. I’m frustrated about that. Correct me if I’m wrong, but, I think there are more than a few girls that would love my “dormant” donations. There needs to be a time-frame for getting implants earned here, else the money goes to the Boob Bank. I think a 6 months is good, but two years…come on…that’s ridiculous.
Thanks for the good work, though.
We allow the girls to hold onto the money for a maximum of two years in order to account for the possibility of pregnancy, breast feeding, etc… There have been at least 2 ladies that I can recall off the top of my head that needed time for child birth.
Here’s an actual email we received:
2 in 440 is less than half a percent.
I think there does need to be a change. I haven’t found anyone older than November 2007 that I’ve donated to, but there are 2 or 3 in that month. I think it might make more sense to have a shorter standard length and then allow exceptions for those who can provide proof they need longer.
I also think that women who have not turned in their model agreement should not be protected from becoming inactive. Many of the women who have been in the HoF for more than a year without surgery have downloaded but never returned the model agreement. They often show hundreds of days of inactivity.
I understand there may be extenuating circumstances, but I think the burden should be on them to demonstrate why it will take more than 6 months rather than starting with 24 months.
Women who raise the money for surgery then disappear for months at a time without scheduling surgery or talking to those who helped them reach their goal make it harder for those who come after them. Not only are they tying up thousands of dollars that could go to women who actually want to have their surgery, but there is an erosion of trust that makes it harder for others.
I think two changes should be made:
1) No protection from suspension due to inactivity until the model agreement is returned to MFI. There may be some requirement to set an effective date for this. It would not be fair to suddenly inactivate these women. On the other hand, if the site provided 30 or 60 days notice that this change is being made and they didn’t find out, I’m not sure that would be inappropriate.
2) Standard timeline for surgery is 6 months from the HoF date. Women can apply for an extension due to extenuating circumstances such as pregnancy, mdedical issues, job loss, relocation, etc.
I agree with Drone, a lot in this (Did not understand what you mean with “2 in 440 is less than half a percent.”).
I think there need to be change to this.
I have over 10 ladies who have made HoF in over 1 year ago, that i have both donated and messaged (of course), some have downloaded the papers some not, some seem to start proceed towards their surgery, maybe not. Some of them are closing in to the 2 year mark in this year. Several of these have not been active in over 200 days. Some even over 1 year of no activity.
All together it is over $1,300 form me tied up in donations and messages.
From one of all these i have had a reason for not doing the surgery, but i begin to doubt on her as well. All the others have more or less vanished from MFI. Several of these ladies are suspended as it tell on their profile. They do not seem interested to solve for what they are suspended for. As far as i have understood if an active lady gets suspended she has 30 days to solve what she was suspended for. Not so for HoFers. I find that not only strange but also wrong.
I also agree to that there are circumstances where a longer wait is needed for the surgery. I have had one of ladies getting pregnant slightly before she made HoF. it took her 1 year or so to get the surgery after she made HoF. As far as i know she informed not only me but also the MFI management about this. Yes there are circumstances that should give ladies longer time to get their surgery after have made HoF.
And yes this does not only tie up a lot of money but undermines trust that makes it harder for others, ie new ladies, benefactor to trust new ladies etc. Why would i donate to someone who maybe tie the money up for years while i could give it to someone who would make the progress to the end and also share her happiness with the community in form of pics and activity.
As Jim also takes up that it is strange that a lady who deletes herself or are deleted by the management that message money are tied up for 180 days.
It is good with the boob bank. But some of us do message a lot more than we maybe donate, and knowing an approximate of what is returned next month or even 3 month as Jim suggested would be nice service.
Ok i got what Drone now meant with “2 in 440 is less than half a percent.”
I have a couple girls i know one i put her in HOF in DEC of 07. and have almost $700 if not more in here. she hasn’t logged on in a long time and no word on if she had surgary or not. She was on a few of the tv news reals done in LA and such that were posted when MFI was in the news there. She also was in Erotica LA that summer. to me i feel if u make HOF and u don’t get one for a set period of time. Money goes back. I know pregneancy is something that is hard to control and an exceptition. I also know overseas girls take long to deal with the paypers and payment process. which i think is something to be looked into speeding up somehow. not sure if another person is hired to only deal with overseas accounts while the J;s deal with the USA and closer people accounts. Just a thought. But i know a few girls from over seas who mad HOF and did get surgary till more then 6mthes later. either papers lost or took a while to get papers to them and then signed and shiped back to LA.
But i agree something has to be done with those accounts that are dormint for to long.
I thought at one point girls were supposed to send the j’s after pics to be posted on the site. i know in beginining it happened. but the before and after photos would be a good thing to update. or in the HOF feature u add a section on HOF girls who arn’t on site anymore where u post after pics or alink on all HOF girls when they send u after pics or they want to post after pics is where they go and stay if they decide to leave MFI.
And make that a public access feature somehow and the j’s approve the after pics to be posted there.
Jason, there seems to be a few of these issues that are affecting your long-time benefactors, and a response such as “not at this time” does not cut it when it comes to customer service.
I understand the pregnancy aspect, but what you are failing to say, in the case of that model, is that for the most part, she continued to stay a part of the community, and just made her goal in the past month. This has nothing to do with those models that we donated money to over a year ago, that once they made HOF, disappeared.
And Andy touches on another issue: post-op pics. I guarantee you that every model on here promised to publish post-op pics on their profile, and by contract, they needed to provide before AND after pictures, but the enforcement on this seems very lax, if non-existent. It also further perpetuates my feeling that some models have gone so far as to have their surgeons paid, and then paid a penalty with their surgeon, but made away with the majority of what was paid. That’s my biggest issue with those who have come back for a second-time so quickly (as if we can tell the difference between a DD and an E cup).
Message credits is not a minor issue. We pay a higher premium for these than we do for donations, yet now that I can now buy as few as $10 of donations at a time, the premium no longer makes sense. Up-charge for those who want to buy 1 or 5 messages, not 10. And when a model deletes, I am not suggesting to give the messages back immediately. Wait a 30-day period, and then return the credits to the bene as you do with the other abandoned message credits. As for those accounts MFI has deleted, there is some reason why you deleted them, usually rules being broken, or some sort of fraud (especially when it happens in the post-HOF paperwork stages). These credits should be refunded immediately, since in the eyes of the business, it is cut and dry.
The wish list and web cams are the biggest changes to the site in the two years I’ve been here, and in my eyes, further changing it into an 18 USC 2257 (adult) site. Since you do not check IDs until the end of the cycle, what is going to prevent MFI from minors performing sex acts on web cam?
@Jim: You are totally mixing up two entirely different issues.
Your question was:
My response TO YOUR QUESTION was:
The other comments that followed our little Q&A were regarding an entirely separate issue related to the amount of time ladies in HOF can wait to use the funds for surgery.
Apples & Oranges my friend. Apples and Oranges. Please don’t confuse the two and assume my response applies universally to all topics of discussion. As can often happen in the comments, the topic can veer off course, so it’s important to read the comments in the order in which they were posted to fully grasp the context. Although, when I posted my response, your comment was the only one on the board at that time. So I’m a bit perplexed as to where the confusion set in.
Now, regarding the other topic that was brought up regarding the time requirements to have a surgery after one reaches their goal… I think you all bring up very valid points. In running the numbers, it looks like the average time between HOF and Surgery Payment is 90 days (the max is 427 days). As Drone alluded to, the top 17 (which are all over 200 days) represents less than 5%*. Furthermore, the lack of women chiming in on this issue is also quite telling. I’ll add this topic to our list of issues to tackle and hopefully we can make a change in the near future to address your concerns.
As always, thanks for your feedback on the matter!
*We don’t have payment date records for all legacy users entered into the database, but it’s still a fairly good sized pool to use for analysis.
As a model on here I figured I would give my input on this issue… I feel if there is a pregnancy issue that should be proof and the model should be excused from the time line.
I also feel that if models are making HOF their should be a time line for them to have the surgery so taht the funds are not held up or at least have atime line for them to send in their paperwork.
I know everyone’s situation is different,But I feel they should be proving legit reasons why they are waiting so long in order to be able to keep their funds for their surgery.
Just like how the J’s changed the rules for models to come back a second time before 6 month or a year I think.not sure of the time line,But they must show proof if they have to come back for a second surgery for medical reason.
I know from my husband that there are ladies who made HOF months ago and still haven’t sent in their paperwork nor have they had their profile active for 30 days or more.
I feel those ladies need to step to the plate and give the J’s some kind of answers on why they are taking so long or the J’s need to go and send them a warning e-mail stating that if they do not respond within 1 week or so to the e-mail that they will lose their funds and have them returned to the benfactors.
I do not feel that funds should be held up for so long with no answers. It’s unfair to the benefactors and to other models who are willing to have their surgery within a certain amount of time. That is how I feel on the situation. LatinVixen
I don’t know that I’d call the lack of female feedback that telling. Obviously a woman who has made the Hall of Fame can afford to be a bit more free with her tongue, but a woman who is still earning and feels the longer time line is necessary might find her donations drying up. After all, if a woman isn’t going to have surgery until June 2011, there’s hardly a reason to push her to the front of the line now.
Women commenting on this thread can probably only support the reduced time line – anything else might leave the benefactors wondering why they feel the lengthier time line should be provided and hurt their current earnings.
@Drone: I was just surmising that the lack of female response coincides with the small percentage of people that this would actually effect. That 2-3%. Based on the number of active accounts, of those who actually read the news, and of those who actually comment on the news. I think with LatinVixens response that just about equals the 2-3%!
in response to drones comment. Well if a girl comes on site now and doesn’t get surgary till june 2011. then there should be noted somewhere on her profile or someone should let benes who donated to her know what is going on. That way a yr or 2 down the road. or what ever new time frame comes up she doesn’t loose out. if she has to wait that long cause she goes on a last minute mission or other trip that will keep her busy for a yr or so. then she must let guys know what is going on. I feel in the profiel sould be a time time when papers sent when review is done when papers received and downloaded and when a payment date set and surgary date set. dont need to post the surgary date. but can say a date has been set. and then post that surgary completed. but the j’s would have the dates in there system just be hidden to the benes. that way they can look at an average time frame it takes for girls in USA to get surgary and then girls overseas to get surgary. From there u can determine what best coarse of action is to speed up process to help girls who make HOF get surgary faster or if she has to increase time. But if the benes can see the progress she is making after HOF. it would ease my mind and i am sure alot of others to know they she isn’t just in HOF and sitting there waiting till she decides to get them even if it ends up being a yr or 2.
I know for me if i knew the girl i put in hof in nov of 07 would abandon the site. i would have donated to another girl who deserved it then and was around after making hof and willing to be a part of the site then.
Perhaps I am in the minority here but I don’t consider any donations I make as “mine” anymore. When I give a donation, it saddens me to get it back. I would rather err on the side of giving the HoF women every opportunity to get their surgeries.
Life happens. Patience is a virtue. I am against shortening the time limit for HoF women to have their surgeries. I feel two years with allowances for exigent circumstances is a good balance.
Like I was saying before I can understand if life happens to people,But this is crazy when a year goes by and the model hasn’t had anything done with no explanation. I feel you benefactors deserve to know what is going on and to have the option to change your donation to someone who has invested the time to earn,stay with an active account, and have surgery in a certain amount of time.I really think it’s unreal when someone hasn’t even sent their papers in 6 months after they have made HOF. I hope the rules change for this situation. LatinVixen
I don’t want to prevent someone from having surgery because their life has had complications. I want them to be accountable for that.
I donate to help a woman achieve a particular dream. On the surface, that dream is bigger breasts. For most women it’s really something more. I think sometimes by the time they reach their financial goal they’ve already achieved their dream.
I’m looking right now at someone who reached the Hall of Fame on April 20, 2008. She hasn’t done anything since then, she’s suspended, and she’s been inactive for 414 days. What are the chances my donations will eventually become her breast implants?
Another woman achieved her goal on August 6, 2008. She has been inactive for 253 days. I have written her more than 20 unanswered messages. She had a consultation and a doctor selected and downloaded her agreement on September 5, 2008. That’s just about the last time she was active on the site.
I did not give these women the gift of money, although the form of the gift was monetary. What I gave them was a chance to get the bigger breasts they said they wanted. What I gave them was my friendship.
What I got in return was nothing. I don’t appreciate the women who disappear like this and I know that is a character flaw in me. I try to be content in the knowledge that at least they got what they needed and that what I did helped them even if they’ve forgotten me. In these cases, I am denied even that illusion and am forced to conclude that I was more interested in them receiving implants than they are.
These women are protected by being in the HoF despite not having provided a model agreement. They are in a strange limbo that allows them to hold the donations they’ve received indefinitely while not bothering to participate in the site.
I would have no problem with extending the deadline for a woman who is having an issue indefinitely provided she maintains her account or has completed a model agreement. These women have done nothing – it almost feels as if having earned the money for implants is enough.
My suggestion would be 6 months with the possibility of an unlimited number of 6 month extensions as long as a model agreement is on file and she is complying with the terms of that agreement.
@Andy: You do know you can see the “payment progress” of a model by clicking on the date she made the Hall of Fame on her profile, right?
Most of what you’re talking about is already there. The only thing not shown is the proposed or actual surgery date.
@Drone. i did not know that was a feature on the page. now i know i will try it out on a girl. thanks for the heads up
@Jason: Here is what you see as apples and oranges, I see as Granny Smiths and Macintosh… both apples of different flavors, but still apples, as you will see.
1) Returned Message Credits: I am not talking about those models who are dormant for 30 day or more. I am talking of models who either have deleted their account (not coming back) or that have been deleted (not suspended) by MFI (also, not coming back). If i delete my account, I cannot come back, and the same should hold true for model accounts. So ALL of the funds, donation or message, should be returned to the benefactors in a timely manner.
2) Time Limit to use earned funds: There are women who earned funds more than 12 months ago, that have not been on in more than 12 months, let alone download or send in paperwork. If they have not logged in more than 30 days, or sent in their paperwork within six months of reaching the HOF, why not treat them like someone who had abandoned their account, and allow that money to go back into the coffers of the benefactor after 30 more days. Except in extenuating circumstances (those 2% you noted above), I do not see a reason to hold these funds available for longer… except
The only plausible BUSINESS reason (meaning benefactors and models are not considered) for holding funds for both messages and earned HOF funds as noted above, is so that MFI can earn interest on these for a longer period of time, as well the factor that if a benefactor is not around six months down the road for messages, and two years down the road for the donations, that is 100% margin revenue for MFI, as well as the additional interest earned over the six months/two years.
How about them apples!!
Now, the issue with the lack of post-op pics not being provided, per the written agreement between the model and MFI, as well as those instances of potential fraud… chalk them up as sour apples. They are both cases where MFI is not getting proof of performance, and should consider enforcing the $10000 penalty in the agreement.
Not an orange in sight, my friend.
The way I see it, there is lax enforcement on post-op HOF models fulfilling their contractual obligations to MFI, and there is an inherent disrespect toward the benefactors when there money just sits around.
I have to ask this… If per the contract agreement that us models provide before and after pix… how come they are not being posted on the site By the J’s? The pix I see on there now are years old and not sure why they are not updated. I would like to see the results of other ladies to. Hey I can provide mine,But not sure if I am the model type the J’s seek! LatinVixen
I agree with you Latin Vixen. i don’t understand either why the before and after pics haven’t been updated either. I would aslo like to see a section where public people who come to site to be a model or bene. can see the result of the over few hundred girls who make hof. in that case. to me everygirl who gets surgary done should have a section in her profile for after pics only. that are clothed and tasteful. no nudity. those ones for there main pics. But these after pics section is what the puplic sees. You set it up as the hof is set up with one pic and there name below. the person visiting the site clicks ont here picture to see more pics. You can organize it in alphebetical order. so if a girl has to come back two or three times to go bigger or fix a problem they can either add to those pics or change the old after pics for the current.
but this i think would be a good way to have a chance to let more people who visit the site to see all the girls who have had sucess on the site.
Now i know it will be tough to get girls pics who have left mfi after make hof and never sent after pics to begin with or never had surgary and been away for over a yr or longer. but to me this would be a plus.
I am with Drone on his comment #18.
The list below was made a week ago or 2 when i showed one of the HoFers this reality, so the inactivity maybe isn’t right anymore, either it is longer or the lady has been on the site and made some activity. I have also removed the ladies screen name here, however anyone can probably guess who they are by just looking at thew HoF list and the date they made it.
Lady A reached her goal on February 28th, 2008!
your contributions: $315.70
model agreement was downloaded November 7th, 2008
Last Activity 2 day(s) ago
Lady B reached her goal on March 24th, 2008!
your contributions: $134.55
model agreement was downloaded April 23rd, 2008
Last Activity 371 day(s) ago
Lady C reached her goal on February 23rd, 2008!
your contributions: $97.00
model agreement was downloaded March 24th, 2008
model agreement was downloaded April 22nd, 2009
Last Activity 43 day(s) ago
Lady D reached her goal on August 19th, 2008!
your contributions: $73.00
model agreement was downloaded October 7th, 2008
Last Activity 279 day(s) ago
Lady E reached her goal on November 6th, 2008!
your contributions: $84.00
model agreement was downloaded May 23rd, 2008
model agreement was received by MFI August 10th, 2008
Last Activity 11 day(s) ago
NOTE: She had raise her goal earn more…
Lady F reached her goal on November 27th, 2007!
your contributions: $125.00
model agreement was downloaded August 8th, 2008Last Activity 303 day(s) ago
Lady G reached her goal on January 22nd, 2008!
your contributions: $92.20
goal was reached January 22nd, 2008
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Last Activity 2 day(s) ago
Lady H reached her goal on January 23rd, 2008!
your contributions: $31.00
model agreement was downloaded February 22nd, 2008
Last Activity 89 day(s) ago
Lady E reached her goal on February 18th, 2008!
your contributions: $23.00
model agreement was downloaded March 19th, 2008
Last Activity 251 day(s) ago
Then i have 6 HoFers i only messaged. all together 59 msg credits who have not done their surgery and are around or far over 1 year since they made HoF
As i do this list, it seems that i have more interest for what they signed up here for than they have. Note: several of these ladies above are also suspended.
Y’know, one way or another, eventually we’re gonna get this site working…
@CCR: The silver lining is, unless the rules change (which I expect they will to further “protect” the models – or allow MFI to earn even more interest), you will get a nice chunk of donations back in seven months, but you will probably have to wait an additional 6 months to get those message credits back. LOL
@Jim: Nice, really nice, Jim, i had nooo clue (sarcasm)
However i hope that some of these really get their boobs from here. Some i am quite sure they have nto the interest to get the boobs from MFI. If you haven’t done anything to your model agreement in over 1 year and haven’t been active in over 350 days, i think there is no interest at all.
Further i said somewhere it was over 1300 dollars from me. now as counted it is a bit over 1k dollars. Sorry for that.
I am pretty new here but I am in total agreement with limiting the time to have surgery done. I read in the blogs all the time models saying “I want this so bad, I cant wait to have my boobies, I am so excited, I’m so close” things like that. and then they dont finish out their journey it makes me sad to hear. I cant belive after all the hard work they would put in they would just disappear. I understand medical issues and such but there should be a shorter time limit and as said before if something comes up then the model should contact the J’s and give proof of their circumstances (without getting too personal or anything). I hope this helps a little having another womans opinion on here and a newbie at that.
I think that a shorter time limit with the extenuating circumstances sounds very reasonable. I think that its unfair of the girls to be holding up that money. One of my husband’s girls got pregnant and breast fed afterwards so he was very understanding of the time it took her to actually get her surgery. Then there are the girls that you have no clue about what the heck they are doing other then they’ve downloaded their paperwork or not. If the funds aren’t going to be used for what they are intended for then put it back in the boob bank so that the men of this site can give it to their favorite girls who will use it for what it was intended.
@CCR: It was just a little sarcastic. LOL
I am with you, though, in the feeling that when I make a donation, I sincerely want a woman to achieve her dream. I’m here because I have seen the positive effect on self-esteem and self-image with a loved one, it is comforting to know this is going to help someone’s dream.
I’m in a smaller boat on the donations I have tied up in women over a year (only about $400, with about $100 in message credits for that same 1 year+ period). That is why I have an issue with having to wait so long for abandoned message credits, especially when the account is deleted, and why I have an issue with women who wait more than a year since making HOF. Let’s be honest: no doctor’s estimate lasts more than six months, and if payments can take six months to release, there should be a one (1) year time period to use the funds. After that, both the donations AND the message credits should release to the benefactors immediately.
Are there exceptions to the rule? Yes, but as it says, these should be exceptions, not the rule.
I just don’t get it. I really don’t. If you donate to a woman, especially if the woman has hit the HoF, the money ISN’T YOURS ANYMORE.
Yes, it is disappointing that some of the women leave after they reach the HoF. It is also sad that a few disappear without having their surgeries. But sometimes life circumstances change drastically and I can see the possibility that a woman simply can’t access MFI anymore due to circumstances beyond their control.
The HoF women have earned THEIR money. Frankly it saddens me that so many benefactors feel the money is still theirs unless the woman has her surgery promptly.
I oppose any shortening of the time limit for a HoF woman to have her surgery.