Happy Fathers Day! New Gifts for Everyone!
by Jason: MyFreeImplants on June 21st, 2009First of all let me just say Happy Fathers Day to all of the dads out there!
We’ve got a bunch of new toys to play with on MFI today, so buckle your seat belt as I run through the list…
The new and improved Live Chat is here!! Yes, you read that right. It’s finally here! I can’t even begin to tell you the stress and headaches I went through to get this up and running. Different vendors. Different countries. New servers. The list goes on… At one point I even stalked the first vendor by driving to their location and knocking on their door! (No one answered). It was a big mess. All I’ll say is that I now know first hand what’s it’s like to deal with people in different time zones and how frustrating it can be! But I digress… let’s focus on the positives. NEW LIVE CHAT! This new implementation includes live audio and video webcam support! It includes the ability to share real time drawings, and even supports a couple of board games that you can play with a friend! And it includes sounds to let you know when someone is requesting a chat — a feature all of you wanted desperately.
Along with the new chat comes 3 new tiers of premium membership subscriptions.
- B-Cup – at $5.95/mo includes live chat, but doesn’t include any message credits as a cheaper option
- C-Cup – at $9.95/mo is the same as the current subscription option with 5 free credits, and adds the gaming and drawing options to live chat.
- DD-cup – at $14.95/mo includes everything from C-Cup but adds live audio and video webcam capabilities — both viewing and publishing if you’re so inclined.
Live audio and video is not cheap to do online (without subsidizing it with advertisements) so in order to cover the costs associated with the new media server we had to add the 3rd pricing tier. You can upgrade your account at any time if you’d like, and you can also downgrade should you choose to do so. Full instructions are included in the help section.
Ladies, there is no charge to you to use any of these features. Just your time investment! 
Also, guys, you can now see when your current subscription is going to renew/expire on your Edit Profile page.
And speaking of the Edit Profile page, there is a new “stealth mode” option. A couple weeks ago we made some updates to the way profile updates were logged and reported to help improve the performance and unify the code. A couple of you wanted a way to still use the site as normal, but not have that cause you to float to the top of the list of guys. Stealth mode will keep your profile from showing as recently updated. It will also prevent ladies from sending you chat requests. Instead, you must be the one to initiate a chat request with her. We realize that sometimes there can be a lot of very aggressive and determined ladies on MFI, and it’s not easy to reply to everyone. So with stealth mode enabled you can still be active on the site, while at the same time keep a low profile.
Let’s see, what’s next? Did I mention the updates to live chat yet? Oh yeah. We covered that.
One thing I forgot to mention however is with the new live chat feature, we are also including a new list of ladies that are currently online at this very moment so that you can easily find someone to chat with. Sorry ladies, you have no stealth mode option, but honestly no one has asked for it yet. Don’t you want the attention?
Oh, there’s a new Wishlists feature! I recorded some screencasts on how that works which you can watch here.
We’ve had some requests in the past from benefactors that said they wished there was a way they could send gifts to their friends. This is especially important to them when their friends were about to go in for surgery, and they wanted to send them a care package or a get-well-bouquet of flowers. Anything that can help make their surgery recovery a little more comfortable goes a long way to showing your friends that you care about them.
Originally we were going to make this feature only available to the ladies in the Hall of Fame. However, there’s another group that we didn’t want to leave out…
Sometimes girls will tell us that all the have a crappy cell phone camera and they feel at a disadvantage because their photos aren’t very good quality. They don’t have the disposable income to buy a new camera so they tend to give up on their dreams because of it. MyFreeImplants was created to help people realize their dreams despite their economic situation! So wishlists is just an extension of that concept.
Wishlists are a simple way to address both of these scenarios by linking your Amazon.com wishlist to your MyFreeImplants profile. You can literally add anything on Amazon to your wishlist and if your friend wants to treat to something nice and send you a gift, he/she can easily do so by browsing through your wishlist and then purchasing the item on Amazon. You can even include gift wrapping if you’d like. Amazon will then send the item to her on your behalf without the need to exchange addresses or billing info.
A minor update is that in order to make room for some of the new features mentioned, we shuffled a few navigation items around and renamed a few of the links. So just be aware of that when you are browsing profiles.
And finally, Jay and myself will be re-introducing our profiles back into the website so that we can have more direct interaction with you all. All help questions should still go through the regular channels, but we don’t want to seem like such strangers anymore. We originally made the decision because of the heat we were receiving on various fronts, but we realized that wasn’t a beneficial change.
I think that’s about it for this installment. As always we welcome your feedback and input and we’re happy to see many of your requests make it into the latest version on MyFreeImplants!
June 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Way to go guys!! This will make the site even more fun, exciting and, yes, totally addicting!! Can’t wait to try it out.
Thanks for listening and making the changes.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Initial thoughts on new changes: Good to know that there is a new chat functionality, sucks that the new chat is Flash based, meaning those of us who chatted on iPhones are now out of luck (remember… emerging technologies when growing online businesses).
The wish lists… step in the wrong direction, if you ask me, as it takes the eye off the ball. Yeah, I understand that models can now ask for cameras, but it is not like the community can share in purchasing them for the models. It just adds to a “sugar daddy” affect. I can see this just adding to greed, and taking money out of the coffers to run the site (as MFI realizes no profit on these sales)
As for chat, maybe it is working out bugs, but my chat screen has been initializing for past 15 minutes… and yes, I have refreshed it.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
F*ing amazing. Thank you.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
“time limit exceeded ” it gives me all the time
but i’m sure it is going to be fixed, thanks for the new features
June 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
YES!!!!!!!! I am sooooo excited!
you are soon to see more of me MFI!!!!!!! I’ve missed you guys!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
We’re ironing out some wrinkles with the new chat as we speak. We’re keeping an eye on the server load and watching the debugging data stream through to us as ya’ll start using the system. Thanks to all you guinea pigs that are helping to test! There’s nothing like a good real-world use case to find all the bugs.
Also, once it’s stable I’ll post another news item with some more details instructions/explanations on how the new chat works.
If you are having technical issues, please send them in via the help section so we can log and track the issues better. Thanks!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Thoughts on benefactor-side:
Stealth Mode: with the changes recently, I can see the benefits of this big time, as I have seen a definite influx of “cut-and-paste” messages. But I would like to see this taken one-step further. Is it possible to add another model, especially in regards to chat requests, where we are visible to our friends (those models on our friends list).
Also, I would like to see, on my profile, an idea over the next 3 months, approximately how many paid message credits I would be due back at the beginning of each of those months. It is something than can be calculated a few times a week.
Keep up the good work on the upgrades.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
is there a time limit on chat now? im so confused i keep getting a pop up saying time limit exceeded now and it closes all my chats???? anybody know what thats all about?
Rob
June 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
don’t click “ok” if you get the time limit exceeded alert, just put it aside and you can chat
June 21st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
yea but i cant leave the chat! if someone else trys to chat with me then u cant go back to the old chat! it locks u out!
i need help! sounds like u r getting the same thing huh paul? so its not just me
June 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
wow!! all those sound so awesome!! especially the chat!!!! oh my!!! yay!! i cant wait to try it out!! thanks guys !!
:)
June 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
1. THANK YOU!!!
2. NOTE ABOUT AMAZON WISH LISTS: I’ve used them for years, and they are great, EXCEPT FOR their hidden address function.
I have had difficulty getting vendors to ship to wishlist addresses. It’s as if they ban them entirely, perhaps because there is some sort of hassle to them (???).
Just a word from the wise, to the wise… Watch out for a lil thing called frustration.
MFI, however – THANK YOU. I just got a pop-up chat window, from MFI, and I’m so freaking happy!
THANKS!
June 21st, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Thank you, J’s, the new improvements sound great, although I haven’t used any of them yet. I like the wish list thing for HOF’ers, for girls not in HOF, eh, not so much.
June 21st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Well I have to say a BIG THANK YOU to the J’s for listening to us and making the effort to make the improvements!! This is the reason this is the top site of its kind anywhere!!!
And I like how you passed the extra costs to the benes and not jack up the percentage of the girls money!!! And it is a reasonable increase too!!!
I am totally psyched now!!!
Now I just need to find one of my friends on to chat with heheheheh
June 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
The new chat features sound great and I look forward to trying them out! IF I can find any of my friends online here!
The wish list??? Totally the wrong direction IMO! I thought the focus here was getting the girls breast implants! I think this may take the focus off of that! I hope I am wrong!
June 21st, 2009 at 7:33 pm
@Michael & @Jim: We seriously considered ONLY allowing wishlists for those ladies in the HOF. But when looking back through help request logs we found quite a few ladies that simply didn’t have the ability to compete on MFI because they lacked a decent camera. There’s obviously more going on here at MFI than just a typical sugar daddy scenario. So we didn’t want to limit this functionality only to those in the HOF. Heck, perhaps with this feature it can help more ladies get into HOF. Who knows. Another use case scenario also presented itself which some people may be interested in, and that’s the ability to purchase some lingerie for a friend and then see her dress up in it in photos/videos. Adds a little more interactivity to the site! So with all of that in mind we decided not to limit it only to HOF ladies. But then we thought of maybe restricting it to those that have earned $x.xx or more to sort of prove they are here for implants. This is still an option on the table. But we wanted to first put the feature/tool out there in the wild to see how it’s being used and to gather feedback from all of you.
At the end of the day, the good thing about it, just like so many other features of the site are you can choose to use what works for you, and what doesn’t. If you don’t want to buy a girl some Hush Puppies, and you’d rather donate towards her Sweater Puppies, then that’s your choice!
As we can see with todays updates, nothing is set in stone. Changes are always a possibility. We just want to make sure we gather enough input and feedback to make the changes that are best for everyone. So thanks for providing your feedback!
June 21st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
And for those that want to take a little trip down memory lane… check this out:
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This was a really old iteration of a ladies profile. We had a very similar concept years ago in which you could buy a lady virtual gifts. So in a sense wishlists are just that same concept rehashed, rebaked, and regurgitated.
June 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
cool ideas. Once I can get the chat working we’ll see how that goes. I’m a little skeptical about the whole wishlist thing.
I’m with Ginger. I just feel like this is going to take away from the ladies trying to get funds for their implants. The fact that I just saw an LCD TV on someones list. Lemme see, $800 for the TV, nothing to MFI. $800 donation to a lady’s implants. She gets $648, MFI get’s $152 and keeps the site goin. My gut tells me the wishlist can very well be used for more than what it’s been setup for. Just my 2 cents.
June 21st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Thank you, J’s! The new chat is so exciting…I think it’s going to be great when the bugs get worked out. I’m so happy it makes a noise…that’s a really helpful feature.
June 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The wish list….In a way it is a cool idea if it is for things that will help a girl do better here on mfi like a girl may need a better camera or for a web cam that can now be used or maybe even if you want to send some flowers to your best girl when she gets her new girls.However I have seen some of the wish lists and let me say some of the girls have gone way out of control I have seen things like x-boxes ps3s nintendo game boys and all kinds of thing that my 13 and 14 year olds ask me for.I singed up at myfreeimplants not my free video games if other guys want to buy the girls all kinds of games more power to you and I might consider helping a girl with some thing that will help her do better in getting her new girls but I will in no way be part of shelling out my hard earned money to a bunch of grown girls for the same things my teen age kids ask me for…………..just my thoughts…..JOE
June 21st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I love the wishlist idea for everyone. because the girl can add something there that might be no practical while she is earning her boobs. but while earning her boobs she will make friends on here and in the end will want to help get her a new camara or cell phone or new clothes to go with new boobs. To me this is a good thing. it helps the guys get an idea of what the girl he is helping needs or likes and in the end works wonders without breaking the rules. i am one who has wanted to help out a select few ladies i am good friends with offsite. but i couldn’t cause of the rules. 3yrs ago rules wern’t regulated as much as they are now. so now makes it tough when i make great friendships and can’t help them anyway post op. but this is a great idea. i love it.
there are a few other ideas i have that i feel should be allowed for when the ladies make hof and get surgary done. but to me that is for another time. when j’s ask for ideas guys would like. or i let them know. but to me this is a great thing.
the live chat update is awesome. when it works great and gets better with issues fixed will be amazing. and now the fact webcam is a function of it is awesome. to me is a good one on one with the girls u help or the friends u have made while on here. and also how when a girl wants to chat with you a window pops up on the guys screen when he is on and he can accept or decline. and i assume same on girls end.
but like any new feature bugs will be worked out and it will be amazing.
just my several cents worth.
I still feel there needs to be a feature when u block a person to be able to work out issues at a set time after blocking to com to an understanding why the person blocked you and what can be fixed both guys and girls.
also i feel the feedback has to be required to have a name attacked with it. when u leave negative feedback or on all. cause when u get negative feedback guys or girls and no name. u like to know who said it and why and talk to the person. i have a couple new ones and frustrating not know who sent them and why.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 am
I can see where some might have a problem with the wishlist that some of the ladies have on here,But like my wishlist… I had made my list way before I joined MFI and have some things on there that I had added before. Now I will not remove anything from my list that is on there since I use that list for my personal use and purchase things that I want for myself. But if you want to get a gift for someone and there are things you wouldn’t buy for them .. THEN DON’T! Just pass on buy it.
I do not feel that anyone should have to modify their wishlist because someone chooses not to buy something from it. If a benefactor is going to donate then he will…… just as he will get a gift for someone… It’s their own choice and some have attachments to some of the ladies here. So I say leave it to the benefactors discretion to pick and choose what he feels is right for him. Now I can see how some could get carried away… But it couldn’t happen if the benefactors didn’t buy them the gifts in the first place.
Now this shouldn’t take away from anyone getting donations. There are plenty of benefactors who will choose not to gift any of the ladies here and donate instead because they is what makes them happy or that is what they choose to do and if they do not then that is their own choice. Everything has it’s up’s and down’s and not everyone will agree.. But give it a chance and see what happens before you judge and slander something that hasn’t even had a chance to expand a bit. Only time can tell. LatinVixen
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 am
I’m sorry Jason, much as i appreciate the hard work and thought that has gone into the Wishlist concept, i think it’s a bad idea.
It is a sad truth that not all the girls here are as honest as we’d like. i can see guys being pestered to buy gifts instead of donate – then watch the “gift” pop up on Ebay within a week.
The site concept is that the donations can ONLY be used for surgery. These new “gifts” are directly to the girls for whatever purpose.
Devils advocate time!!! There is now an opportunity for a girl to sign up to the site pretending to want implant surgery. She may get donations, but she also posts a wishlist of nice things she’d like from Amazon. She then asks guys to get those things first, instead of donations. “I REALLY need a better camera”! Once she has lots of nice things – she deletes her profile … well, she didn’t want the boob job anyway!! I hope that this illustrates the potential problem?
The change to chat will be a great addition, once its ironed out. The wishlist is against the whole concept of the site, and i think it should be removed.
Just my opinion, but i don’t think i’m alone in having these thoughts.
ChrisUK
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 am
Repost of my recent blog (yes I’m blogging again!)
And ladies, you too should keep this in mind when creating your wishlists! Don’t be greedy. It shows.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:34 am
Is there any way to just have a generalized gift certificate to Amazon available? You know where small donations to accumulate towards a purchase instead of someone purchasing a large expensive gift, per say a camera or web cam, pc, etc…I also think BLOGGING about the gifts being bought should be against the rules to keep animosity and jealousy from growing between models. Maybe it could be a choice to where the girls place their money…say they got a 100 buck donation and wanted 25 towards new bras for after surgery for example….they could put part towards boobie goal and add the other into their amazon account…
I am also confused about how you can tell a girl is materialistic by what is added to her wish list, if I add clothes. bras, shoes etc does that make me LESS materialistic? Also what if it was done just cash so we could do what we wanted? As a single mom who finds it hard sometimes and needing cosmetic dental work…..I would rather have funds go towards that than a playstation or TV! Or maybe have another account for depositing cash into? Just throwing some thoughts out there…..
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
So, I finally tried out the new chat. The messages, that popped up seemingly, every 30 seconds saying that the person I was talking to, was offline, was kind of annoying. Hopefully that will be fixed. But, in the midst of talking to her, I got a message saying that, she closed the chat. She claims she got a message saying, she was timed out and it knocked her off. I believe her, in spite of the fact that, I’m pretty boring to talk to.
Aah, the wish list thing. I believe it should not be deleted, in spite of the fact that, I, personally, would probably not buy something for a non HOF’er. I have no problem with everyone being able to have one.
A lot of the girls on here are single moms, and students and can’t afford some of the things, the rest of us take for granted. Are you materialistic if you need a vacuum cleaner? Since when did that become a luxury? Wanting a Playstation for your child, if you can’t afford one, doesn’t seem so off the wall to me, either.
I would like to see the community embrace the wish list idea. I see it as a logical extension of MFI. I also believe, now don’t beat me up too much for this, that MFI should add a 1% surcharge to the items, as a way of making more money for the site.
Will there be some abuses? Of course, but, I believe that, for the most part, the girls will be honest about their wish lists and after all, it’s still up to the benes to donate or buy a gift. If you choose not to buy a gift, then don’t.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Jason, the argument about what the wishlist tells you about the girl, is a red herring- it might just tell us that she’s ambitious, nothing wrong with that.
What would really put peoples minds at rest, if like the donations, we can see haw many she has, then her wishlist should include stuff thats already been bought for her.
i dont mind buying a camera for a girl, but i sure as hell dont want to buy one when she has 6 already!!!!!
Personally i think the wishlist an excellent idea, as long as i can see what she’s already had.
The camchat, well i’ve had a couple of girls already try to tempt me with 3 seconds of live cam. this is sooo unfair on the girls who are not confident to do that, dont have the privacy etc etc etc, but i can see that its a matter of seeing how it plays out
but PLEASE let us see on the wishlist or somewhere what has already been gifted
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:52 am
@dietcoke: Ask and you shall receive!
Just added 5 new fields as per your request:
Priority
Number Desired
Number Received
Date Added
Comments
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
@Michael: From what I can tell looking at the links for the wishlists, it is monetized. There is an affiliate tag embedded in the link from here to Amazon. So as long as it is being used, and with more women upholding the spirit of the wishlists, asking for diamond earrings, vacuum cleaners, and video game systems (read: higher ticket items), MFI is making some revenue (up to 15% according to the Amazon website).
One huge positive is that a lot of the HOF members who have not been engaged with MFI for months have come out of the woodwork with wishlists.
/sarcasm
@Jason: All of the wishlist links are pointing at Natasha’s wishlist.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
OK yea I put a vacuum on mine LMAO! BUT my house burned down so theres things I could use help in replacing, a girl can only use so much lingerie! So does that mean guys would rather buy a girl lingerie than something she could use? things like perfume, bath oils etc ok but electronics not? Like I said I rather put up there I RATHER HAVE A GIFT CERTIFICATE, an E-card…..then when I get enough on them to order, I can get what I want and no one will question my choices on my WISH list…I had fun PC window shopping while it lasted
Another thought….if a girl can come back to get a 2nd set of boobs done, “just because” or others reach their goals to never have it done…then what is wrong with us splurging on our wishes? Bottom line it IS the benes choice whether to donate or send a gift.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
@Angel- i would even buy a vacuum cleaner, but not a gift certificate- only if it could be guaranteed to go to something specific on your list.
If i want to give the girls cash to spend on general living, then there are plenty of places on the internet that cater for that.
Lets not let this site descend into a begging place like SOME sites.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Well like I have said before some people … Like myself had our wishlist done way before it was added here and Yes I have a vaccum on it and a few other household item that I would love to have… But just cause you see it on a list doesn’t mean you have to buy it! The saying goes to each their own! Noone has to send me gifts to be honest because they have given me the gift of a lifetime by getting me my boobs so I can actually say I have been blessed,But since the option is theer I added mine and if I get a gift that is great and if I don’t it will not upset me nor will it make me change my mind about the people on it! LatinVixen
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Greed is apparent no matter how much it is covered up by saying stuff..oh I already had it on there.
The wishlists will definitely influence who I donate to or support.
If you really wanted it to be about the site then you set up a secondary one just for MFI, simple.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
@dietcoke: You’ve hit the nail on the head for my issue with the wishlist.
“If i want to give the girls cash to spend on general living, then there are plenty of places on the internet that cater for that.”
I feel more and more that the site is losing focus on its original purpose: My Free Implants. Not “My Free PS3″, not “My Free Groceries”, not “My Free Diamond Earrings”. I understand the intention of the wishlist option, but I’ve also seen an influx of models, post-HOF or still on their journey here, flow back here from another site today, and setup wishlists with multiple $500 purse/handbags, multiple $100 bottle of perfume.
Although I’d rather have seen secondary cosmetic procedures added into the site, the Amazon affiliate program, which allows MFI to realize an immediate revenue stream through the percentage Amazon pays back to MFI for directing those sales to Amazon and its business partners, was an easy hit.
However, I disagree with you on the red herring. It has nothing to do with ambition. Trying to find someone to buy any of the non-MFI related items that have been listed, especially the high-ticket ones, in my eyes, is greed.
But, since MFI has opened up that door, it is a new day on MFI, and as the landscape changes, I think you will see many leave on both sides of the house.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Well it’s funny how so many can assume and yet not know. If it was greed for me trust me I would of put so many more things on my list that would of really upset alot of people. Now if you really want to get technical…. to find out if someone had something on their list before you can click on one of the items and it wil take you to their list and you will be able to see the actual date of when the item was put on the list.
Like I said before…
Everyone has their own choices of who they will donate to or gift. You have that right to do so,But do not get upset at us ladies because others want to send us gifts and whatnots.
Also alot of benefactors want to talk about greed,But do not want to bring up the fact that some have made promises on donations for pix and videos and have cheated alot of ladies and they go from one lady to another.
Now how do you think us ladies feel when we try so hard and spend so much time and then get told so many things and we try to see the good in you all and some just have to ruin it? So not cool on how so many come here to exploit us women and ask for so many things that alot of us will not do because the site is not considered a porn site,But some still treat it like one.
There are so many things that people will like and not like about the site But to go around putting people down and critisizing them for something that doesn’t work for you is not cool. Just do not go to the wishlist and just move on… Remember you do have a choice!
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
The wishlists, even when edited for privacy (like using initials instead of a full name with a shipping address) still show a FULL shipping address when the benefactor gets a shipping confirmation e-mail from amazon.com. In other words, when the buyer is purchasing items only the initials, town, and state are shown, but the separate e-mail that they get later confirming shipment shows the full shipping address.
Unless I did something wrong (it is possible).
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
wow..lots of opinions on the topic. The only reason I added anything to the wishlist is because some of my guys wanted me to do so. So, by me doing what they ask…does that make me greedy?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Not it doesn’t make you greedy and that is what alot may not understand. Some benefactors will love the fact they can pick something for you and know you will be very happy when you get it. Some just do not understand a bond that can be made here. Everyone will do certain things for different reasons and it shouldn’t have to be explained…. But I do have a problem when there is a wishlist packed with nothing but items that are like 200 and over and just made up.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
no Jim, i dont have a problem at all with the wishlists- apart from the issue latin vixen raises in her blog about privacy- a point very well made.
i think its very very welcome and will be using it to treat the girls now and then.
BUT latin vixen, you are quite wrong that its all up to the individual. there is only so much money to go arround here, and the HOF girls sticking arround to get their wishlists bought isnt going to help, tho in their case i think thats to be welcommed- just like you LatinVixen, they and you are the grand dames and lifeblood of this site.
- but what happens is, the place gets an ethos for this or that. the scenario of people joining so that their gift lists get bought could easily become an issue here, and it could destroy a lot of the general goodwill that abounds here- this place just doesnt have the seedy feel of the begging sites
i think the jays have been very good at minimising the risk of problems occurring, and i think that they realise that the one thing most benefactors dont want to do is give money
and i’ll tell you why, because once it becomes a financial transaction, you get requests for rent, car repair, and other such stuff. and although i’m sure many of us would like to help with that too, we dont want to be guilt tripped into it, but if someone says they are starving, and there is the facility to alleviate that, then what do you do!?!?!?!?!?
thats why i am against direct money or voucher transfers.
its not an easy matter, and if what Jim says about the influx from another site is right, then js must keep a very very beedy eye on that.
but in no way is it JUST a matter of personal choice. There are two ways at looking at freedom, the freedom to be left alone, which is ok, but the freedom to do things together, for something better which is the best freedom!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I’m not wrong at all. It is the decision of the benefactor if he chooses to purchase a gift from someone’s list or not and from what I see there are alot more girls getting into HOF now than before. So there has been a step up!
I also see your point on how HOF’ers who haven’t been as active on the site as I have and some other that will come back just for their wishlists and that is where I feel that is a problem also…. Let’s just see if it will be regulated or not! LatinVixen
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Hey.. don’t dog my wish list. I may have a vacuum and a brush for my dog and even tanning oil, but heck those are the things I want. So, I may not get them, but if I do GOODIES! Yes, I agree 110% that people who are already in the HOF will come back just for the wish list.. what’s wrong with that? Until MFI offers rhinoplastys its another way for me to have fun on this sire and maybe even get a few things that I’ve wanted for a long time. Personally, I am not going to change the items on my wish list just because it doesnt relate to my boobs… Anyways, too bad we can’t ‘raise money” via messages and getting to know guys to put towards things we want… but as of now I like the idea, just curious if anyone will actually use it.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
The privacy issue…particularly, disclosure of city, concerns me more than anything. While most people are cool and would not use personal information like that for anything shady, this is the internet. And, this is basically an “adult” site. All it takes is one sociopath with an obsession…
I think that actually makes it dangerous and I think there are a lot of young women here who might not realize the risk. That worries me.
One way to have a bit more control over it is to not have the wishlists publicly displayed on the profile. This way, a girl can choose who she shares it with.
I like the idea that a model has to have already earned X-amount, so that it’s clear she didn’t sign up just to get free gifts that are non-boob related. That seems logical.
I wish that instead of X-boxes and the like, travel expenses related to surgery could be on a wishlist. THAT would be so unbelievably helpful. If I go to the surgeon I want most, it’s going to be, at the very least, $1000 out of pocket (just for transportation and lodging for me and a caretaker). I don’t know how I will come up with that…I had been trying to save for a few months, got to about $30 in change, and then had to use it all for tolls to and from school. If my travel expenses were covered, I would definitely go to my #1 choice of doctor.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
I have to highly agree with Jessie. I’m one of those ladies who has to travel far to get a surgeon I felt comfortable with to do my surgery over and the expense of the trip is killing me. I’m driving down to save money on a car rental,But I still have to pay for gas,food,hotel for 1 week and it’s a pretty hefty out of pocket expense that I really cannot afford. Without this surgery I would be in pain and I think I have been this way long enough. Is theer or will theer be any options for this?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
sorry for my spelling.. just so damn tired and cannot sleep! lol
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I like the new chat. i can understand all the differences in opinion on the wish list. i (as im sure there are some honest girls still on here) do have only 2 items on mine. i explained in a pvt blog why i would like and use both items. i choose to not take advantage of that
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
All very good comments! Thanks for sharing your opinions and thoughts. They are extremely valuable!
Regarding the privacy of these wish lists… As you will see when you create your list (as well is in the How-To news post) we posted a notice to alert you of the fact that if you choose to add items to your list that are sold through a 3rd party vendor, then that 3rd party may share the shipping address with the purchaser. So to stay on the safe side, you should only add items that Amazon sells directly.
UPDATE: Please see my comment (#51) below.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
SO, Amazon itself does not share any personal shipping information with the purchaser of a wishlist item?
From what I understood (and I may have missed something when reading the news and watching the how-to video), the purchaser may be able to see city and state. I didn’t catch anything about this only being true if it’s a 3rd party item. If that’s the case, it definitely alleviates some of my concerns regarding safety.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
@Jessie Amazon will show city and state, but not address.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 am
Im kinda torn on the whole wishlist…I havent been very active myself here but all my donaters know that its only because I have had computer issues.
Yet every single one I have spoken to about the wishlist has ASKED ME to put something on my list…There was a couple who wanted to buy gifts…flowers lingerie ect after I reached HOF so for them its a great addition.
I dont see why people are making a huge deal about it…you can either participate or not simple as that.Like I said MY friends have requested that I use the wishlist…not sure whether I will participate or not yet but you have to look at it from all angles.
Jumping the gun and coming up with silly theories 1 day into it is just crap …focus on your goal which is BOOBIES…I will say that while I was earning I would NEVER considered doing a wishlist as boobs were my number ONE priority..my dream…I sold old things on ebay to buy a new camera…I budgeted(((trust me was hard))) to put a little towards it myself…I have 2 kids and a single income I know its tough but If you are earning for boobs putting items not related to helping you achieve your goal is going to deter benefactors from donating/supporting you.
As I said Im not sure myself whether I will participate but so far 5 out of 5 that I have spoken to have asked me to make one…so for HOF’ers I think its a great idea.
Girls Just dont forget what you are here for…your here for boobs…you can always buy a PS3 or a Nintendo DS…can you afford to pay for your Own boobs?
Just my lil rant..
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 am
Ok here is a concern I had…what about girls JUST joining for the wish list part? They stay on “earning” yet concentrate more on the wish list, when they get what they want they leave never intending to have surgery. The funds go back to the guys but they leave with “FREE” stuff!
Another issue…..new guys still burn a buck to message us HOFers that have never sent one before. If HOFers are here and we are making new friends we are still earning in a way with paid messages. So if we put in more time here to keep in touch with our friends and yes some will come back ONLY because of the wish list…my question is what about those extra funds just sitting in my boobie bank almost a year after surgery and it is still growing? If it goes into a seperate fund for chargebacks or to help another with exchange rates that is fine, but just to sit there…maybe there is some way HOFers can earn paid messages as credits towards a purchase on Amazon perhaps?
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
Please edit your wishlist settings on Amazon. I’ll add a screencast for this too.
See here:
Third-party item shipping
At Amazon.com, third-party sellers (i.e., sellers other than Amazon) offer many items. If you instruct Amazon to share your Wish List shipping address with these third-party sellers, then customers can purchase items for you off your Wish Lists that are sold by these sellers and have them automatically sent to your confidential Wish List shipping address.
If you choose to enable this feature, you acknowledge that Amazon will provide the seller of your item with your Wish List shipping address, and the seller may disclose this address to the buyer (for example, when sending the buyer a purchase confirmation). Further, because an item may often be purchased from more than one seller, the sellers offering the item at the time of purchase may be different than the sellers offering the item when you placed the item on your Wish List.
If you decide not to enable this feature, customers purchasing items for you that are sold by sellers other than Amazon will be required to enter your shipping address.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 am
hey @ angel in disguise, using money from the messages to buy stuff on amazon sounds mighty like you using boob funds for stuff other than boobs
perhaps an automatic charitable donation of the message dollar? one of the breast cancer charities? i’m sure the HOF girls, you included AngelInDisguise would approve of that
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
of course I would….I believe my first suggestion was to use it towards other models charge backs after 6 months and everything was cleared away with my account, or to help out with last minute exchange rates…it is not alot but with many in HOF I am sure it adds up. The reason I said use to help out with Amazon (or perhaps a bra or 2) is because in spite of being told guys can message thru contest pages they still chose to burn that buck to be able to message us for free after, I think you may have the wrong idea about me LOL! The guys WANT to know where it is going, and wanted it to help out SOME way for us. I just want it put to use and of course as the Js see fit!
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 am
very true, but i still dont like the idea of my dollar going towards a model i dont know, whether she has suffered chargebacks or not.
that would be me paying for the misdeeds of other benefactors, not the girls, but still.
the reason i suggested a charitable donation, is because it is uncontoversial, better than a great big warning saying sending this woman a message will mean someone you dont know gets your dollar
i know it seems petty, but in my opinion, if you start with something that isnt transparent, then you build on that as time goes on.
actually LOL now come to think of it, the dollar going towards the amazon wishlist would be preferable to a dollar towards an unknown girl.
tho as cans of worms go, this isnt a biggy
the big can of worms will open, when some people start piffing for each others wishlists!!!! now thats gonna be the giant sized can of best worms LOL
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 am
BTW….you state me using paid messages for stuff OTHER than boobs….I GOT MINE, that is what I am trying to get across…the paid message money AFTER all is said and done….so technically it is not boob funds any longer right? I was just curious along with others what happens with it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 am
ok THATS what my guys who burn that buck have said…..they want it to go to me. I tell them I am sorry they burned it, they tell me it was worth it no matter where it goes to be able to message me anytime….
LOL I thought about the PIFin the list….
I DO hope once this takes off the Js will not allow this stuff bout who get what, yada yada being posted in the public blogs…as a few may know there was animosity already about the lists yesterday.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
wait…not thought about PIFin it, thought about others doing just that….just a clarification!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am
angel, i really dont feel bad about this, as i said, i am a fan of the lists, and am looking forward to my faves posting them,
and of course the blogs should remain free of direct accusation
but there are issues galore! LOL
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
@ jason
i have just had a worrying conversation, a hof girl has just told me that she has been bought something on the wishlist, but because amazon links her wishlist here to another, the fact that she had been bought it didnt show up here!
people can have a wishlist that shows up here, and can get amazon link it to another that doesnt!!!
see?
how on earth can we know what has been bought and what hasnt?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I am curious: MFI links up Amazon Wish Lists, yet Amazon is a censored word in chat and messages??? Oversight?
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Amazon isn’t in the filtered list. You may have an old version of the list in your cache. Clear it and try again.
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
@dietcoke, I’m not sure I understand the issue. Please send us an help request with the details so we can look into it further. Thanks.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Women now have a Stealth Mode option too as per request.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Another thought: has any consideration been made about not allowing the mention of wishlists in public blogs, as well as not allowing women who publicly blog to have the word “wishlist” in their name. It seems that with these blogs going out to the world, it cheapens the site, and if any prospective surgeons come on to check out the site, and look at some of the wish lists with $5000 handbags, $4000 flat panels TVs, dildos, they are going to get the wrong impression about the site. Also, consideration on policing the wishlists for the same reason?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I agree with Jim, and have so mentioned a couple of times. I feel like it has no place in the public eye. I feel it should be reinforced with repercussions some way. If someone brags about so and so get her this or that….it is going to stir trouble. I don’t really have a problem with what a model added to their list, I mean it IS a wishlist…and it says ITEM DESIRED….so yea a $5000 handbag is definitely a desire. It does not necessarily mean it will ever be purchased. I have revised my list quite a few times, its been fun to PC window shop
and ya know how much women LOVE stuff! Alot on mine will be purchased by myself because of the great bargains.
One question I DO have…..unless someone tells us they are the one that purchased it, is there any way to KNOW who did?? I have one item no one has yet to reveal as their gift to me….maybe some want to remain anonymous.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Considered it? Yes. Spent time on it? No.
We hate being police and cracking down on people. And we hate censoring people. I’d rather not spend my time worrying about abuse. I’d rather focus on more productive things. Do I think about it? Yes. Does it concern me? Yes. But I’m not going to dwell on it. The vast majority of people are good, so it hardly benefits anyone to spend an inordinate amount of time planning for dooms day scenarios.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
you know, if they have 5000 dollars handbags, then good luck to them, says a lot about the person. i’m not sure it cheapens the site in reality, what it does do is give the site a bad image, and may put off potential benefactors. lets face it, many of us are here because of the general friendlyness and bonhommie that abounds.
one of the reasons that this news item has 66 posts, is because we want that feeling to continue. we dont want this site to become money grabbing and transactional. However at the same time, if there are wishlists and they are above board, i dont think it is anyones business whats on them. we allow wishlists, then we allow them! period
and i cant see how a banning of mentionning wishlists in blogs would be a good idea, how can you have a feature of the site, one that may well become a main expenditure stream of many benefactors, and then treat it like an open secret.
we either embrace the wishlists, or we dont, the blog rules are fine as they stand, they allow for open talk without anything getting out of hand.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Here I sit and am wondering why the ladies are being penalized for wishing? Hoping for things that maybe, just maybe, they can’t buy for themselves or that they could but the money can go for things like rent or a utility bill that must taken care of. I, myself, do have things that I wish for and I have two wish lists. One is strictly for MFI for things that I would love to have ONLY for myself. The other is for things that I would love to buy and one day, I will.
I have never begged for donations or “things”. It is beneath me! My friends have REQUESTED that I do my wish list for MFI. I have no intention on asking or requesting that they purchase me anything. They wanted to know simply what I would wish for. And since I am getting my big girls, I am going to need a new wardrobe. I will buy the lingerie that I want one day, a little at a time but if they wanted to know what I would wear, I put it down in my list. I did put on my wish list that I would love to have plants after my surgery. However, the reason is because I want something that doesn’t die in a few days. And when I look at it, I will remember who thought of me enough to send it. A flower plucked dies in a matter of days but a plant can be grown for years and looked upon with loving memories.
I have to be perfectly honest, I would rather that they just be what they have always been, my friends! No more than that!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
CHAT – Great!
WebCam – Maybe some day in the future…
Wishlist – Will some abuse them? Yes. But I’m one who asked friends who are against wishlists to create one. I want to be able to send my friends a small token of thanks for the privilege of sharing their journey to Hooterville. I won’t spend much on wishlist items. My budget for the boob bank won’t change either. Go ahead and dream big.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Is there any chance that we could have the choice to create a wishlist that is not posted publicly?
In other words, one that could be shared with friends if I choose to share it?